In this special Mental Health Awareness Month release, we have a conversation with Former UCLA Professor of Psychiatry, Author, Documentarian, Podcaster, and Suicide Prevention Expert, Dr. Mark Goulston. We talk about how he treated his undiagnosed depression, "Surgical Empathy," the "Four Prompts for Suicide Prevention," the stories of Patient Nancy, Kevin Hines, Jason Reid, Frank Kilpatrick, and Musician Rayko, "The Five Really's," how to help creatives stave off sadness and depression, Elon Musk and Steve Job's potential for Bi-Polar Disorder, Nolen Bushnell, Jordan Peterson, and Chip Connelly, how to talk to assholes, and his role in the OJ Simpson trial. Enjoy!

Introduction. (0:00)
Empathetic approach to treating suicidal patients. (7:34)
Suicide prevention and therapy. (13:37)
Depression, suicide, and hope with a medical school student. (20:04)
Mental health and suicide prevention. (27:15)
Mental health and communication between parents and teenagers. (41:18)
Mental health in creative industries. (48:20)
Creativity, mental health, and entrepreneurship. (51:54)
Entrepreneurship and mental health. (57:40)
Finding happiness and meaning in life. (1:03:48)
Creativity, parenting, and success. (1:10:06)
Dealing with difficult people and situations. (1:17:56)
Managing difficult people through self-awareness and assertiveness. (1:21:55)
Using psychology in high-profile trials and personal stories. (1:25:48)
O.J. Simpson trial and its controversies. (1:32:09)
Trial strategy and innuendo. (1:37:19)
Race, police brutality, and projection. (1:43:42)

*More about Dr. Mark Goulston:*
https://markgoulston.com/
https://twitter.com/MarkGoulston

*Full Summary*

Renowned psychiatrist and author Dr. Mark Goulston joined podcast host Chris Barkley for an in-depth discussion covering topics around mental health, entrepreneurship, and more.

Goulston, known for his bestselling books on communication skills and suicide prevention, discussed his experiences working with suicidal patients over 30 years and achieving a zero suicide rate. He shared techniques for listening empathetically and building trust to help those in crisis.

The conversation also touched on Goulston's involvement in the infamous OJ Simpson trial, where he provided consulting to the prosecution. He recounted his interactions with attorney F. Lee Bailey and how he used communication strategies to gain the upper hand during questioning.

When it comes to entrepreneurship, Goulston offered advice on dealing with rejection and setbacks. He emphasized the importance of surrounding oneself with supportive people during low periods. He also warned of the high rates of mental health issues like bipolar disorder among creatives and visionaries.

Overall, the wide-ranging discussion provided valuable insights for anyone struggling with mental health issues, navigating difficult relationships, or pursuing entrepreneurial dreams. Listeners learned practical tips for helping those in need or handling life's inevitable challenges.

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